Jump to content
Welcome to Backyard Astronomy Space - please register to gain access to all of our features. Click here for more details. ×
SmallWorldsForum Microscopy and macro photography - a companion forum to BYA ×

Designing and 3D printing a horseshoe mount for my turret tripple widefield imaging rig.


Gina

Recommended Posts

I'm looking to make a 3D printed mount for my turret imaging rig.  This would be much easier if the turret were modified to use a different mounting.

Edited by Gina
Link to comment
Share on other sites

This is the turret imaging rig with 200mm lenses mounted on my EQ8.  The mounting method here would be totally unsuitable for a lightweight and compact DIY mount.  I'm thinking of a "horseshoe" type mount.

200mm.thumb.jpeg.1a679a25cc74a496fe1f5dd6bcc2ad7b.jpeg

 

This is a CAD screenshot of the bones of the current mounting system, designed to use a standard ADM dovetail bar.

526438620_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2616-29-51.thumb.png.ac3a49c34c9a9efacbcc43d91e3ccb09.png

 

This is it without the mounting.

53956609_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2616-33-09.png.7e1b41032149031f283fc84e193f38b9.png

Edited by Gina
Link to comment
Share on other sites

After much thought and playing around in CAD, I came to this arrangement as the simplest implementation.

1489772086_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2721-57-15.thumb.png.2047f0744ca9e1088c703f9f76a67e8d.png

 

Applying mathematics or physics to the situation, any object in space has 6 parameters or co-ordinates.  3 spacial axes and 3 rotational co-ordinates.  The central bearing takes care of the X, Y, Z co-ordinates.  The rollers cover 2 of the 3 rotational values and the final one is the turret rotation about its axis which will be controlled by gearing and stepper motor.

 

Rotation drive could be either the same as now with a large spur gear ring attached to the back plate or maybe turn the front plate and wheels into gears.

Edited by Gina
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 rollers restraining the front turret plate.

178706738_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2811-17-07.png.021e99a4112f08699a7c79842cb16f51.png

 

Wheels attached to a ring.

1122344169_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2812-20-17.png.93e0e5a46888039243422bc53b94b271.png

 

Then this ring could be connected to the axle tube to form a complete assembly.

1166384101_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2813-03-08.thumb.png.b4e0d8af5ff23eab95c10c04ab6eeeca.png

 

227173110_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2813-04-06.png.17be4ba611ead418dc847af4ee55d83c.png

 

The colours are to make the model clear only - won't be printing in those colours.

 

ATM I'm just playing with the principles, probably need some adjusting and additions.

Edited by Gina
Link to comment
Share on other sites

DEC worm gear added.  Looks a bit on the small side (about 200mm) but we'll see how it goes in the horseshoe mount.

111423773_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2813-48-01.png.143fe7118d0751e07f6dc98efb72098f.png

 

1736448095_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2816-25-20.png.8e491e1dfdc37c9c18f8fa97f9178028.png

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Next was trying to arrange spokes to connect the horseshoe to a bottom bearing without interference with the DEC worm wheel.  It needed a considerable modification to the horseshoe design.

1353469974_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2818-51-14.png.55ebbb7633db7c0c1d188ed19b6d292a.png

 

562371187_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2822-52-46.png.55c2d7f6bdafdd9e4f4190f624cbbc91.png

 

1700541273_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2822-51-45.thumb.png.fa206ea45da8a96c2998c798fdc34074.png

 

1395902755_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2820-11-09.thumb.png.688246e54037ea8d91c2b632bd4352b2.png

 

1331724140_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2820-10-23.png.9db0f5932d0b13f7cd71d6c84fde1459.png

Edited by Gina
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Reworked the horseshoe a bit to make the spokes easier to design.  Holes for attaching the spokes at sensible distances from the centre point of the outer arc and also set at 120 degrees to each other so the spokes could meet neatly where the bottom bearing mounting plate will be attached.

1701565087_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2912-30-32.thumb.png.6991f8a27c06535c23eeb8a2dabc3791.png

 

213591059_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2912-31-51.thumb.png.3888556c80ef9d7e736967a17dd483f8.png

 

318048492_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2912-32-54.png.b908fd4beada2e00bc4e540db3ce0833.png

 

1801611769_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2912-43-21.thumb.png.8d3d37373b27f4f3624d91cdd211584b.png

 

461900639_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2913-34-06.png.b36237576a110d8eedd04677548253a4.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I've created a new assembly with the horseshoe RA section of the mount separated from the DEC etc. to show that part more clearly.

 

Bottom bearing arrangement consists of a 10mm OD SS rod that will be attached to a swivel bracket for PA Altitude.  Or it might be a bolt and nut.  Shown above is ball bearing and bearing plate attached to spokes with bolts.

1934453114_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2916-20-31.png.e58c0023dfabf75ce52626e55fb28331.png

 

392361455_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2917-04-05.thumb.png.e483ac1958a6ab428ea1cfc62617325d.png

 

348248263_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2917-05-03.thumb.png.bc7219034107e884dcef8d10643a65d8.png

 

869171769_Screenshotfrom2021-10-2917-25-36.png.a079734708ced2d64cd5abdeda57cf49.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

To get an idea of scale, the diameter of the outer running surface of the horseshoe is 400mm.  The thickness of the horseshoe is 30mm.  It's a fairly substantial structure.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Was having problems with the CAD and decided to start again with the RA assembly and carefully check things as I went along.  I was also getting conflicts between parts so went for a redesign of the horseshoe and spokes to make sure of clearance for the DEC worm wheel and the DEC arc.  I'll just post the result and not all the "blind alleys".

1212044563_Screenshotfrom2021-10-3015-38-17.png.20a1438f271e05128e0f19a730d7a810.png

 

565390486_Screenshotfrom2021-10-3015-47-47.png.e5d07fae2c936cfa376f17b7d14b1abb.png

 

775607979_Screenshotfrom2021-10-3015-58-57.png.7b2fb226f80b310e21e51474a207dfdc.png

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The design so far has one serious deficiency!  Communications and power cables.  Even if I could arrange all the electronics on the turret and use WiFi there is still the need for power.  So arrangements have to be made for cables to connect from the outside world to the turret.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The design needs modifying to include a path for cables via the rotation axes viz. turret, DEC and RA.

 

This shows a new design of the horseshoe to provide a gap between that and the DEC arc  where cables might pass.
1937508401_Screenshotfrom2021-11-0318-06-55.thumb.png.48cd546b92debfc89e1c46adac26240f.png

 

2086090473_Screenshotfrom2021-11-0319-02-31.thumb.png.79c0e85f3c48d95d1335be304fad9e78.png

 

1109873209_Screenshotfrom2021-11-0319-09-04.png.5330be07a88d32be3a15de81497033c4.png

 

Now if the smaller hole in the horseshoe is changed to a larger one with a slimline ball bearing the cables have a possible path.

 

The "axle" can be printed as part of the DEC arc.30812185_Screenshotfrom2021-11-0319-53-06.png.1c7dc941e1c0520fb6b2628e73deabcd.png

 

1395225124_Screenshotfrom2021-11-0320-15-22.thumb.png.48c22f40bcabb772d1c01e6e65d74261.png

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Welcome to Backyard Astronomy Space - please register to gain access to all of our features

    Once registered you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You will also be able to customise your profile, receive reputation points for submitting content, whilst also communicating with other members via your own private personal messaging inbox. 

     

    This message will be removed once you have signed in.

  • Tell a friend

    Love The Backyard Astronomy Space? Tell a friend!
  • Topics

×
×
  • Create New...