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Hi all, I'm sure I've read this before somewhere but still unsure of the theory ...

Am I correct in thinking that when stacking, 1 to 2 Half's the noise, then 2 to 4 Half's again, then 4 to 8 ... 8 to 16 etc.

So going past 16 really needs a massive investment in time ?

Also where does sub length come into this ? I use a ZWO 1600 pro and seem to get good results in my bortle 7 / 8 zone with 300 seconds at unity gain.

Also, now sure that (as I've been told but wanted to see for myself 😉) that only Ha cuts through the Moon glow.

Due to time restraints I've been aiming for an hour per filter but this equates to 12 subs so I guess I need to grab an extra 4 to see the benefit ?

For completeness and a recap ...

300 seconds / gain 139 / ZWO 1600 pro / f4.9 ZWO narrowband filters.

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5 hours ago, GazAstro said:

Hi all, I'm sure I've read this before somewhere but still unsure of the theory ...

Am I correct in thinking that when stacking, 1 to 2 Half's the noise, then 2 to 4 Half's again, then 4 to 8 ... 8 to 16 etc.

So going past 16 really needs a massive investment in time ?

Also where does sub length come into this ? I use a ZWO 1600 pro and seem to get good results in my bortle 7 / 8 zone with 300 seconds at unity gain.

Also, now sure that (as I've been told but wanted to see for myself 😉) that only Ha cuts through the Moon glow.

Due to time restraints I've been aiming for an hour per filter but this equates to 12 subs so I guess I need to grab an extra 4 to see the benefit ?

For completeness and a recap ...

300 seconds / gain 139 / ZWO 1600 pro / f4.9 ZWO narrowband filters.

SNR is the goal. The more images stacked, the more SNR we will have in the end result. The simple number to remember is square root. 4 images stacked will have twice the SNR as one image. 16 images stacked will have 4 times the SNR of one image, and so on. Below are 4 images. From the top down is a single image, followed by stacks of 4, 16 and 64. The SNR gets progressively stronger, reducing the amount of noise. The final image stack of 64, will have 8 times the SNR of a single image.

 

I'm not saying you need to take 64 images for each filter, but too many is better than not enough. I stack my images as they come in, then check each hourly stack. I usually find 5 hours is the minimum on each narrowband filter with my1600, and normally go for 10 hours on each filter, if the object has weak signal.

 

 

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